{"id":248,"date":"2009-02-10T23:22:17","date_gmt":"2009-02-11T04:22:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.broadstreetbelievers.com\/?p=248"},"modified":"2009-02-10T23:33:51","modified_gmt":"2009-02-11T04:33:51","slug":"tuesdays-top-twelve-steroids","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/broadstreetbelievers.com\/?p=248","title":{"rendered":"Tuesday&#8217;s Top Twelve &#8211; Steroids"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Top Ten lists are trendy.\u00a0 I hate trendy.\u00a0 Top Twelve lists are not trendy.\u00a0 I like Top Twelve lists.\u00a0 I really like ordering things because, among other things, it can really lead to some interesting debates.\u00a0 So, I&#8217;m going to try and come up with a Top Twelve list every Tuesday (like I can ever keep a schedule about anything), and this is the first one.\u00a0 Some of them might be an all-time assessment.\u00a0 Some might be a sort of snapshot assessment, but I&#8217;ll try and keep it interesting, if nothing else.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" align=\"right\" width=\"408\" src=\"http:\/\/www.geocities.com\/jacko1109\/busted.jpg\" height=\"364\" \/>So, the A-Rod fiasco actually surprised me.\u00a0 Yes, I feel really, REALLY stupid, but I thought he was clean.\u00a0 It really hit me that when people say &#8220;everyone was doing it&#8221; or &#8220;it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me to hear that <em>anyone<\/em> was on &#8216;roids,&#8221; they may not\u00a0be exaggerating.\u00a0 So, I thought to myself, who actually <em>would <\/em>surprise me if they were on that list of 104 or if they, at some point, took steroids.\u00a0 And, honestly, it wasn&#8217;t that easy to come up with twelve.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>[By the way, I had this idea before I listened to the Sports Guy&#8217;s podcast, where they talked about it&#8211;it almost made me not do it, but I liked the idea.]\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I limited it to hitters because, honestly, I don&#8217;t know how to tell about pitchers.\u00a0 I mean from Ryan Franklin to Guillermo Mota to Roger Clemens to Andy Pettitte&#8211;all very different styles of pitcher, with very litte in common, so I stuck to hitters.\u00a0 First, I stuck to the stars because, honestly, it would not surprise me at all if someone who was a borderline major leaguer did anything to try and &#8220;stick.&#8221;\u00a0 I also tried to find players that either (a) did not depend on power for their skills, (b) have a naturally powerful build, (c) have consistent numbers throughout their careers, OR (d) just don&#8217;t seem like the &#8220;cheating&#8221; type.\u00a0 Granted, this last one is pretty impossible because we don&#8217;t know these people and it&#8217;s wrong to try and place judgment on baseball players as people.\u00a0 Anyway, here is what I came up with:<\/p>\n<p><strong>12. Vladimir Guerrero.\u00a0 <\/strong>The thought behind Guerrero is two-fold.\u00a0 One, he is so naturally gifted (maybe the most naturally-skilled hitter I&#8217;ve ever seen) that he wouldn&#8217;t need steroids.\u00a0 And, two, he seems kind of aloof and not intensely competitive.\u00a0 Yes, aloof (in the kind of dumb way that Guerrero seems) may actually lead some to be more likely to try steroids, but I just don&#8217;t see it in Vlad&#8211;and I&#8217;m not sure why.\u00a0 Like I said, it was harder than I thought it would be to come up with 12 that would surprise me.<\/p>\n<p><strong>11. Ryan Howard.\u00a0 <\/strong>Howard falls purely into the category of &#8220;naturally powerful.&#8221;\u00a0 Again, I have nothing really scientific to base this on, but Howard&#8217;s strength looks like it fits his body type.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t think it looks unnatural, in any way.\u00a0 Yes, I know that I started this list of &#8220;clean&#8221; baseball players with two injury-prone power hitters, but I ran out of names.\u00a0 Another thing that might make Howard less surprising is that he did spend a lot of time in the minors and may have thought he needed a &#8220;break.&#8221;\u00a0 But, I really just don&#8217;t think the big guy is big for any reason other than genetics.<\/p>\n<p><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" align=\"left\" width=\"300\" src=\"http:\/\/news.aldiainc.com\/common\/newsimages\/b\/Bobby_Abreu11.jpg\" height=\"248\" \/>10. Bobby Abreu.\u00a0 <\/strong>The main reason that I picked Abreu for this list is because, well, I just don&#8217;t think he cares enough to take the risk.\u00a0 I never have anything but positives to say about Bobby Abreu (I\u00a0admit to having an unhealthy, completely unobjective affinity for the former Phillies rightfielder), but the one thing that I do admit is that Mr. Abreu is not exactly the fiercest competitor.\u00a0 That and the fact that, even though he loved be a 30-30 guy a little too much and took a LOT of joy in winning the home run derby, I don&#8217;t see power numbers being as important to Abreu.\u00a0 Then again, he did have his biggest power numbers right in the heart of the steroid era&#8230;but, Bobby wouldn&#8217;t do that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>9. David Wright.\u00a0 <\/strong>This one doesn&#8217;t really have anything to do with anything other than I have a lot of respect for David Wright, despite the colors he chooses to wear on gameday.\u00a0 He seems like a respectable person and I think his game is so balanced that power is, sort of, the cherry on the top of his talent.\u00a0 Yes, I know, 4 straight power hitters in top 5 markets&#8211;probably not the best place to find &#8220;clean&#8221; players, but I believe in them.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>8. Lance Berkman.\u00a0 <\/strong>The only reason I even considered Berkman for this list is because he has been\u00a0SO\u00a0vehemently opposed to steroids and vehemently in favor of drug-testing for a long time now.\u00a0 Granted, that does not prove his innocence because the guys that scream the loudest against something are often the ones with the most to hide, but\u00a0for some reason, I believe the big ole Texan.<strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You know, as much as I believe another big ole Texan that starred for the Astros.<\/p>\n<p><strong>7. Miguel Cabrera.\u00a0 <\/strong>Have you seen him, recently?\u00a0 Does he look like a guy who, uh, spends a lot of time in a weight room?\u00a0 If Cabrera is the example of what you become on steroids, do you think it would really be the problem that it is?\u00a0 Plus, he combines a lot of the things that I see in Guerrero (insanely talented, but kind of aloof) and Abreu (doesn&#8217;t really seem as competitive as most professional athletes).\u00a0 Throw in the fact that he&#8217;s been a superstar his whole life, so why would he <em>need <\/em>steroids?\u00a0 You know, just like A-Rod told Katie Couric.<\/p>\n<p><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" align=\"right\" width=\"400\" src=\"http:\/\/www.clevelandleader.com\/files\/photo-omarvizquel.jpg\" height=\"318\" \/>6. Omar Vizquel.\u00a0 <\/strong>Omar was one\u00a0of the first guys that came to mind when I thought of\u00a0doing this because he clearly fits the bill of someone whose game\u00a0really has nothing to do with power.\u00a0 He is one of the two best\u00a0defensive\u00a0shortstops that I have ever seen, and I, as a light-hitting shortstop in my day, idolized Omar.\u00a0 The one thing that kind of threw me, though, was the fact that Omar,\u00a0in even fewer at-bats, had\u00a0seven times as many home runs in 2002 as he did in 2001<strong>.\u00a0 <\/strong>But, it&#8217;s not like 2002 was the heart of the Steroid Era or anything.\u00a0 Even still, I think Omar is clean because his game was defense, and that did not require power.<\/p>\n<p><strong>5. Derek Jeter.\u00a0 <\/strong>The poster-boy answer to this question.\u00a0 He is probably the first guy on most people&#8217;s lists, and to be honest, he was probably the first guy that I thought of.\u00a0 But, at the same time, that is also why I wanted to leave him off completely.\u00a0 But, with all integrity, I do see an upstanding person who is a great (albeit, probably overrated for a number of reasons), great player.\u00a0 But, he does not rely on power to be great.\u00a0 He does not look like anyone with unnatural strength.\u00a0 And, his work ethic has never been questioned (though, the same has been said for Mssrs. Rodriguez and Clemens, as well).\u00a0 But, in the end, he did play in New York alongside Giambi, Knoblauch, Rodriguez, Clemens, Pettitte, etc.\u00a0 And, he does seem to have that win-at-<em>almost<\/em>-all-costs competitive fire, so I do think that there are four players that would surprise me more if it came out that they were &#8216;roid-heads.<\/p>\n<p><strong>4. B.J. Upton.\u00a0 <\/strong>One, Upton is insanely talented, with so much going for him, on his own.\u00a0 Two, he was only 14 years old when McGwire and Sosa were going after Roger Maris, in the summer of &#8217;98, so he may have missed the &#8220;culture&#8221; of steroids.\u00a0 For those two reasons, I would actually be <em>very <\/em>surprised if it came out that Upton was on the juice.<\/p>\n<p><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" align=\"left\" width=\"275\" src=\"http:\/\/eastwindupchronicle.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/12\/ichiro.jpg\" height=\"235\" \/>3. Ichiro.\u00a0 <\/strong>The one thing that I keep pointing to, in thinking about Ichiro&#8217;s place in this whole era is that he came to the United States in the middle of his baseball career.\u00a0 I have never heard of any steroid controversies in Japan (though, I could be way off on this), and Ichiro was every bit the player he is in the States when he played over in Japan.\u00a0 His game is about speed and quickness.\u00a0 He is often put down because of his lack of extra-base hits.\u00a0 And, he is about 150 pounds.\u00a0 I would be downright shocked if Ichiro was involved in a steroid scandal.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2. Josh Hamilton.\u00a0 <\/strong>Hamilton is a very interesting case in this because he made his major league debut last year&#8211;7 years after being picked #1 in the draft.\u00a0 He has been described by some as having more natural talent than anyone in the history of baseball, so his recent major league success could certainly have nothing to do with anything illegal.\u00a0 Also, Hamilton&#8217;s substance abuse problems have been well documented.\u00a0 He has had major problems with both alcohol and many levels of drug addiction, including heroin.\u00a0 But, he has been clean for two and a half years now, after being out of baseball for several years.\u00a0 This is an interesting case because there is absolutely NO DOUBT in my mind that Hamilton is not taking any substance now because of his commitment to recovery.\u00a0 Whether or not he dabbled in the minors is another question, but I believe that his drugs of choice were recreational, as opposed to &#8220;professional.&#8221;\u00a0 And, he is dominating the major leagues now&#8211;completely sober&#8211;so I would be very surprised if Hamilton&#8217;s career has been aided, in any way, by steroids.<\/p>\n<p><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" align=\"right\" width=\"320\" src=\"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/_Jk-lH31V1Hw\/RsyB_WSr6XI\/AAAAAAAAABE\/PA-hO3iwZ8I\/s320\/JoeMauer.JPG\" height=\"320\" \/>1. Joe Mauer.\u00a0 <\/strong>Maybe an anti-climatic ending to this list, but there is no one in baseball that would give me more of a surprise that they used steroids than Joe Mauer.\u00a0 Maybe it&#8217;s because he is a slender catcher.\u00a0 Maybe because he&#8217;s been a superstar athlete his entire life, who never needed a &#8220;leg up.&#8221;\u00a0 (Did you know that he only struck out ONE TIME in his 4-year high school career, including a .605 batting average his senior year?\u00a0 Uh&#8230;what?!?)\u00a0 Maybe it&#8217;s\u00a0because he only has 44 career home runs in 5 major league seasons.\u00a0 Maybe because he has that Midwestern &#8220;choir boy&#8221; reputation.\u00a0 Maybe because he&#8217;s the hometown kid playing away from the pressure of the big cities or one of the coasts.\u00a0 Or, most likely, it&#8217;s a combination of all of those things.\u00a0 I would be absolutely DUMBSTRUCK if Joe Mauer joins Bonds or McGwire or Palmeiro or Sosa or Clemens in the minds of baseball fans.\u00a0 SHOCKED&#8230;but then again, in the Steroid Era, it&#8217;s clear that anything is possible.<\/p>\n<p>Please, feel free to chime in with any comments on this list or submit a list of your own.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Top Ten lists are trendy.\u00a0 I hate trendy.\u00a0 Top Twelve lists are not trendy.\u00a0 I like Top Twelve lists.\u00a0 I really like ordering things because, among other things, it can really lead to some interesting debates.\u00a0 So, I&#8217;m going to &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/broadstreetbelievers.com\/?p=248\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[13,450],"tags":[393,428,452,455,456,458,457,453,71,454,218,95,451],"class_list":["post-248","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mlb","category-top-twelve","tag-bj-upton","tag-bobby-abreu","tag-david-wright","tag-derek-jeter","tag-ichiro","tag-joe-mauer","tag-josh-hamilton","tag-lance-berkman","tag-miguel-cabrera","tag-omar-vizquel","tag-ryan-howard","tag-steroids","tag-vladimir-guerrero"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/broadstreetbelievers.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/248","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/broadstreetbelievers.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/broadstreetbelievers.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/broadstreetbelievers.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/broadstreetbelievers.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=248"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/broadstreetbelievers.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/248\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1134,"href":"http:\/\/broadstreetbelievers.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/248\/revisions\/1134"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/broadstreetbelievers.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=248"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/broadstreetbelievers.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=248"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/broadstreetbelievers.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=248"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}